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|Quote (Jerry Don Bauer @ Nov. 25 2012,09:24)|
|Guys, it's hard to address responses to my musings when all you say is Bullshit...lol|
|It already is taught that way.|
No, the truth is not taught in schools about Darwinism....Never is it taught that the fossil record shows not a single transition from species A to species B to imply speciation......etc. only the pros are taught...not the cons.
|Problem is when religious wackaloons start proclaiming their religious beliefs to be 'truth' and demanding equal time in science classrooms.|
You mean the evangelical atheists called secular humanists who mask their religious faith as science to teach that man magically morphed from an ape-like critter against the scientific definition of a sexual species? I would agree.
|Great. We'll teach ID in philosophy class.|
Science is also philosophy....Never heard of methodological naturalism and the scientific method?
|Maxwell imagined little demons pushing molecules around too. That wasn't evidence there are little demons pushing molecules around.|
Of course not...just a good analogy to get you thinking....Never implied otherwise.
|The hypothesis is that the designer in each case was human. If not the proper name, give us the species of your Intelligent Designer.|
Just like in ALL chemical design, I believe that the designer is Quantum Mechanics.......is QM a human, or a deity to you? You'll have to think that out for yourself.
|More bullshit. All those sciences start off by hypothesizing the identity of the designer (usually human, sometimes animal in the case of trace fossil evidence), then trying to match the unknown with something previously known to be designed.|
Ahhhh...so you believe that chemistry, biology and physics also has designers.....They all begin by hypothesising the designer.......This is news to me, but I'll take it...lol
|Your "model for initial design" is nothing more than POOF! MAGIC MAN DID IT!'|
No, that's abiogenesis and natural selection with people magicially poofing from monkeys and birds popping into dinosaurs and the like that is confusing you. Again, I believe QM does the designing. You have my permission to call QM God if you wish....:)
|Do you have anything new to add beyond the stale old PRATT claims from the IDiot camp? If not, there's nothing to discuss.|
You seem quite adept at discussion thus far....*wink*
jerry, just one of the mistakes you're making is erroneously labeling modern evolutionary theory as "Darwinism".
Another is this:
"You mean the evangelical atheists called secular humanists who mask their religious faith as science to teach that man magically morphed from an ape-like critter against the scientific definition of a sexual species?"
No one (at least no one with a clue about evolution or evolutionary theory) teaches that man magically morphed from an ape-like critter. Your statement shows how ignorant you are about evolution and evolutionary theory. It also shows that your agenda is a religious one since your remarks are meant to be insulting to atheists and secular humanists. If ID is strictly scientific, and not a religious agenda, WHY do you care at all whether someone is an atheist or a secular humanist? And why doesn't it bother you that your religion teaches that humans were magically morphed from dust and a rib?
The ape to man thing is what bugs you creationists the most, isn't it? To you, an ape (or ape-like life form) is a lowly, stupid, soul-less, unclean animal, and humans (or at least 'god-fearing' humans) are exceptional, ensouled, clean beings who are specially created in the image of "God", right? Humans, being so 'special', just couldn't have evolved from a filthy ape, could they? And there's just no way that an ape could be anywhere close to the image of "God", eh?
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