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What, and how will you teach the teachers?

Here's one way:

I didn't read the article yet. But according to Acrobat's search function no word containing "intelli" appears in the text. The starting paragraph says:        
Although the cell membrane is a complex structure, its basic form, and the self-organizing behavior of the molecules that produce it, can be easily simulated in a high school science classroom.
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Self-organizing complex structures with intelligence involved?

Seemingly, you didn't dare to mention your theory in that article.

BTW, the article is freely available here.

Thanks for letting me know that a .pdf is now easy to find online! It was initially in Encyclopedia Britannica but that required a subscription.

Intelligence related theory is one of my scientific interests, a most favorite. Due to the Theory of Intelligent Design being harder to explain and more controversial than "self-assembly" was (back then) it's important to first pave the way, ahead of time.

As with the self-assembly demonstration I enjoy introducing new concepts to education. This theory bundles up a number of them, including self-assembly which is here needed for the theory to be coherent, even though self-assembly is not intelligent.

1) Scientists have been researching vesicle formation for decades.  In fact, Oparin put forth the notion in 1924.  Nothing in this is new.

It is true that scientists were researching vesicle formation, unfortunately "self-assembly" was essentially unheard of in public school science classrooms. That's why I experimented with a number of different things in order to create a safe and inexpensive home/classroom demonstration which does not require a microscope. The project required finding a grocery store source of phospholipids (which turned out to be egg yolk) and a procedure that makes something large enough to see (which turned out to be cooking oil in water).

I helped introduce what was being studied by scientists to the public schools.

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2) The notion that vesicles are evidence of intelligent design is ludicrous.  Such vesicles form easily under a variety of conditions.  Why don't you go ask Jerry if vesicles have CSI.

My only intent was to introduce the concept of "self-assembly" to science teachers. The theory does not even mention CSI, or ever needs to.

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3) I notice that your NCSE thing has 1 review.  Do you have stats on how often it's been downloaded?  Did you write the review?

Please do not confuse the (private nonprofit) National Center for Science Education (that only exists to promote a single theory over all others and stomps out intelligence related sciences and scientists who study cellular and molecular intelligence) with the National Science Teachers Association (that exists to help keep US science teachers ahead of the curve in science education). The two entities are entirely different.

The theory of intelligent design holds that certain features of the universe and of living things are best explained by an intelligent cause, not an undirected process such as natural selection.

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