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Wesley R. Elsberry

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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 07 2012,08:14   

rossum wrote:


Contrary to what Dr Dembski has stated, this simple example shows that a regular process, such as ROT13, can create CSI.  [...]  CSI can be generated by non-design processes such as ROT13.

The are ways to demonstrate algorithmic processes generating CSI; Jeff Shallit and I have done that before. However, the example cited is not one of them. In fact, Dembski's "The Design Inference" devotes a chunk of text to the discovery of specifications for encrypted text.


Since a regular process can create CSI it is therefore incorrect to assert that a regular process cannot be the origin of any CSI found in living organisms.  This is a major problem for ID's attempts to use the presence of CSI as a marker of design.

This part I agree with, but it isn't justified by the ROT13 example.

"You can't teach an old dogma new tricks." - Dorothy Parker

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