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|Quote (Erasmus @ FCD,Sep. 30 2012,20:16)|
fascinating, that's exactly the sort of story I had in mind. But I wonder if rubystar re-tarded. It would seem so, in this thread
It was fallacious of me to take such liberties in the way I assumed Genesis to merely be symbolic. I've learned
that the questions surrounding it are much more complex than that, and require much deeper study. While I still accept evolution as a valid scientific theory and valid subject of study, I regret to think I may have steered others from
properly respecting the very Bible I base my belief system upon. There is symbolism in Genesis, but I no longer
hold many of the same opinions I once did about it as noted in the POTM. I believe there was an Adam now, for example, though I believe he was both a literal person and a symbol of mankind. Other such opinions have also, shall I say, 'evolved'. Please understand that I will continue to pursue the proper way to synthesize good faith and good
science and have and likely will make misjudgements along the way.
however the t.o. essay seems to place Rubystars directly in the camp of "de-tarded because of internetting the tards" although in her[?] case she was the tard who was slaying all those evilutionists.
her comments about athiests in forums and not agreeing that her religious beliefs are irrational make me think that this de-tard thing wasn't permanent. either way, a very interesting set of links. Gracias!
Again, and with a nod to both my own story and the story of Mandi's detardation, it may be that rubystar's story is not yet finished. The long, slow process of detarding is one filled with back and forth for some of us.
|Quote (keiths @ Sep. 30 2012,13:07)|
|"No it was very, very gradual. Actually there's not really one single moment where I can look back and say ah, that was the moment. It was kind of a slow progression," Teresa MacBain shared about her loss of faith with CP in a phone interview on Tuesday...|
Unable to point to one specific incident that made her change her mind about God and the Bible, MacBain chronicled the train of thought that led her from the Christian faith to her secularist reasoning today.
"It's just theological. I had no problems with the church or the structure or the organization. There are basically four steps that occurred over a long period of time. One was the contradictory nature of the Bible; the lack of scientific or historical foundation or accuracy, which took me a very, very long time to come to terms with. That was the starting point I guess when I realized that that wasn't true, that the Bible wasn't true. From there I moved to thinking about all of the religions in the world and how people basically associate, in most cases, with one religion or another based upon their own culture and how they were raised," she said.
"So I kind of moved into a position where I thought that all religions were equally valid and that it kind of depended on who you were and how you were raised but that we were all on the same journey. From there I moved to the question of the existence of hell and trying to understand how a supreme being could create humans that according to the Christian Bible are very weak and finite, as compared to God. How that creature, being, entity, whatever you want to call it, could punish them eternally in such a horrible and torturous place as hell. So that was kind of a third discovery."
I kind of did the details in approximately the reverse order, but there was a lot of reaching back, grasping at straws of my former tardlife, along my travels from fundy tard to vague tard to woo tard to newageyallreligionsaretrue tard, to tard-free. It's really fucking hard to let go, when you're risking eternal torture, your family ties, the entirety of your social existence. I wouldn't write Rubystar off just yet.
Lou FCD is still in school, so we should only count him as a baby biologist. -carlsonjok -deprecated
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