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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 10 2011,12:36   

Quote (Richardthughes @ Nov. 10 2011,10:20)
Ask him to define 'information' and give examples of it's measurement in biology.

I agree. I would insist that the information content of a gene be calculated, and then show us how this varied between species.

The creationist demand seems to be rebutted if they cannot give a cut-off value. This reminds me of Duane Gish's bullshit about protein sequences.

What evolutionary science does instead is to show that molecular, and fossil data generate the same hierarchical trees. Some references I have at hand on whale evolution include;

Thomas A. DEMERE,  Michael R. MCGOWEN, Annalisa BERTA, John GATESY
2008 “Morphological and Molecular Evidence for a Stepwise Evolutionary Transition from Teeth to Baleen in Mysticete Whales” Systematic biology, vol. 57, no1, pp. 15-37

Robert W. Meredith, John Gatesy, Joyce Cheng and Mark S. Springer
2011 “Pseudogenization of the tooth gene enamelysin (MMP20) in the common ancestor of extant baleen whales”  Proc. R. Soc. B 7 April  vol. 278 no. 1708: 993-1002

"Science is the horse that pulls the cart of philosophy."


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