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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 13 2012,05:44   

Quote (oldmanintheskydidntdoit @ Oct. 13 2012,03:03)
gpuccio:
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If even Zachriel canít see that there is no circularity in the dFSCI procedure, after I have given him explicit examples of how it is empirically capable of distinguishing designed strings from non designed strings with 100% specificity, then there is really no hope. There must really be something wrong in how these people reason.


This 100% procedure as far as I can tell goes something like this.

Here are three strings.

A) The rock fell on the IDiots head but it was ok because there was no damage.
B) 2348905urwe8o0asfjw80435u8023u45890wr4jfe9-0ui5904wuir09efu093wu845890reu804
C) The cat sat on the mat.

His "procedure" seems to be to ask somebody to determine which, if any, of those strings are non-random.

I shit you not.
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Again: we test dFSCI with a set of long enough strings. Some of them are designed and meaningful, some of them are generated randomly. We know the origin of each string (if it was designed or randomly originated) because we have direct knowledge of how they were produced. Then we take some independent observer, who knows nothing about the origin of the strings, and ask him to infer desing, or not, using the evaluation of dFSCI for those strings. He will recognize the designed strings, with 100% specificity. Thius is the very simple meaning of my #5: an empirical test where dFSCI can easily recognize designed strings from non designed strings. Empirical test, nothing more.

http://www.uncommondescent.com/intelli....-436413

He then says:
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If even Zachriel canít see that there is no circularity in the dFSCI procedure, after I have given him explicit examples of how it is empirically capable of distinguishing designed strings from non designed strings with 100% specificity, then there is really no hope. There must really be something wrong in how these people reason.

I knew that cognitive bias is strong and powerful in humans, but I really believed that it can be partially controlled in intelligent and goodwilled people. Evidently, that is not always the case.


Just wow.

Hey, Gpuccio, I think my next project will be a "is this string designed or not" website.

Given that you have a 100% perfect method of determining design or not you'll clean up.

But I suspect not. As gpuccio himself says:
 
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There must really be something wrong in how these people reason.

If their reasoning is so poor then how come you are on the pissant blog bitching about people who actually get published on a regular basis and not just in books?

What happened to the O in dFSCI? gordo likes to promote dFSCO/I. Or is it dFSCI/O? Whatever. I guess gpuccio missed the memo.

And speaking of gpuccio, I'll bet that even after all that BS about "specificity", an "empirical test", and "the dFSCI procedure", he can't calculate the amount of CSI, or FSCI, or dFSCI, or dFSCO/I in a banana.

Hey gpuccio, let's see you demonstrate your intelligence and goodwill by doing the so-called "dFSCI procedure" on these ten things (the real things-not this text), and show your calculations:

1. a flu virus
2. a 5 pound piece of granite
3. †a goldfish
4. a human toenail
5. a beaver dam
6. a chicken
7. a rose bush
8. a pseudogene
9. a fly maggot
10. joe g and gordo's love affair

Edited by The whole truth on Oct. 13 2012,03:49

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