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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 16 2012,13:08   

Quote (eigenstate @ Feb. 16 2012,08:05)
That's the basis for comment to Eric: it's a tautology in the same way as e=mc^2.

Which is to say, not a tautology at all.  "Survival of the fittest" would be a tautology only if biologists defined the "fittest" as "those who survive".  E=mc2 would be a tautology only if m were defined as E/c2.  Physicists don't define m in that way, and so E=mc2 is not a tautology.
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It's a production, and equivalence for sure, but it's based on reality-grounded, empirical principles (and both are falsifiable).

Right.  It just seems odd to me that you would call it a tautology when it's falsifiable. "A falsifiable tautology" is an oxymoron. To use the classic example, we don't need to examine a single actual bachelor in order to determine that "all bachelors are unmarried" is a tautology.  It's true by definition.

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