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|Quote (Dr. Jammer @ June 21 2012,15:23)|
|Quote (olegt @ June 21 2012,13:00)|
Tell me, from the bottom of your heart, this is what ID boils down to: "we are not apes," isn't it? You, guys, don't give a shit about the tree of life. At the end of the day, it's about the special creation of humans. Did I get it right?
I.D. boils down to, "we are not apes," to the same degree that Darwinism boils down to, "God does not exist."
Are there people who support I.D. because they believe it demonstrates that we're not apes, which they find comforting? Absolutely.
Are there people who support Darwinian evolution because they believe it explains life without need of a God, which they find comforting? Absolutely.
Again, motive mongering is a two-way street.
And again, we have no supporting evidence for anything you've said.
Do you really think that people believe in evolution because it makes it OK to not believe in God? I've got some bad news for you buddy... you are massively confused.
Evolution is not a belief. It is science. There is evidence. Whether you agree or disagree with the evidence is one thing, but there is evidence that supports the theory of evolution. Further, the theory of evolution can successfully predict future occurrences.
evolution is science
science is not a belief
therefore evolution is not a belief
I don't expect you to understand. After all, you think "because it looks complicated" is evidence that supports ID.
Of course, everywhere but in your head, people actually study a subject, then come to a decision about it. You guys decide how you want it to be, then try to find things that you think supports your opinion.
Again, I would like you to point out, in detail, where in the definition of evolution that it says "God does not exist".
If you want to discuss religion, I can do that too. But religion is not science. Science is not religion. Evolution is not religion, because it is science and ID is religion, even the inventors of ID say that ID is religion.
Remember this quote "Intelligent design is just the Logos theology of John's Gospel restated in the idiom of information theory."? I wonder who said that?
Now, do you want to talk about religion or do you want to talk about science or (much more likely) neither?
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