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|Quote (OgreMkV @ Nov. 29 2010,18:48)|
|Obviously, I'm slightly biased, but I think Hitchens won both debates.|
Blair, at least has sincerity and is actively 'working' in Africa. However, he fails to grasp the dichotomy that Hitchens kept pointing out.
If religion wasn't telling those people to not use condoms and that having AIDS was better in God's sight than using condoms... then all the great work that the religion does in Africa wouldn't be needed in the first place.
I submit that people who do good works would do them regardless of religion (or lack thereof). Perhaps there would be fewer people, because without the fear of hell, some of them would sit at home instead of going to Zimbabwe or something.
I'd rather have an honest jerk than a hypocritical nice person.
I agree. IMO Hitchens won. However the vote indicated a draw. Both Blair and Hitchens persuaded a roughly similar percentage to their cause. Dembski was crap.
I am not saying that Blair convinced me. I am just saying that according to the vote. Blair and Hitchens persuaded a roughly = amount to vote their way.