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|Quote (OgreMkV @ Sep. 17 2012,19:48)|
|Quote (Joe G @ Sep. 17 2012,19:29)|
|Quote (Soapy Sam @ Sep. 17 2012,18:58)|
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|Jerad: Take for example the presence of hind legs in some species of whales.|
Joe: Nope, no hind legs in any species of whales. Most likely remnants of hind flippers.
Jerad: So why are there still vestiges of hind flippers then?
Joe: Because there are.
|Jerad: Are you saying that when humans starting eating citrus fruits, etc that we lost the ability to synthesise vitamin C?|
Joe: Nope. What I say is the non-functional VC gene is for the future when we cannot get VC epigenetically.
Evidently, in Joeworld, epigenetics is everything outside the genome, and includes eating :p (thesis supported upthread: "Because we can incorporate vitamin C into our diet- epigenetics.")
And we keep a broken gene that may one day become magically fixed because it would be impossible for the Designer Of Whales to just give us the fucking gene when we need it!
Nice spew of ignorance there dopey sam:
epigenetics and the environment
[quoteEPIGENETICS & THE ENVIRONMENT
The genome dynamically responds to the environment. Stress, diet, behavior, toxins and other factors activate chemical switches that regulate gene expression.
turning on a genetic switch does not equal eating food to get a vital nutrient that we (and other members of suborder haplorrhini like chimpanzees, gorillas, etc) can't manufacture anymore... like almost every other mammal on the planet.
Here's a hint Joe... no amount of environmental influence will EVER be able to turn on the gene to generate vitamin C in haplorrhinis. It don't work. It's dead. It's not sleeping, it's not inactive, it's not quiescent. It's broke.
Kevin, How do you know that we didn't lose the ability to manufacture vitamin C because our diets were rich in it, making it quite unnecessary?
And how can you test your claim "no amount of environmental influence will EVER be able to turn on the gene to generate vitamin C in haplorrhinis"- please do tell.
And BTW evolutionism cannot explain why we have a non-functioning VC gene- you chumps can only make up a little kid's story and pass that off as "science".
But anyway, yes nutrition can and does turn on genetic switches.
Chromosomes. are. all. connected. It is one long polymer. Called the DNA. - oleg t
simple English (hint: "equal" and "interchangeable" aren't synonyms)- JohnW
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