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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 23 2007,11:33   

Quote (Thought Provoker @ Sep. 23 2007,10:46)

I agree, Joy's expertise appears to be more in understanding physics as opposed to biology.

With the emphasis on "appears." Given her rank dishonesty about biological subjects, I suspect that she's just as dishonest and/or deluded about physics.
What she brings to the table is the thought that it may be time to quit treating the different scientific disciplines as separate.  Biologists can't continue to ignore General Relativity and Quantum Mechanics.

Can you offer any evidence that would allow me to conclude that biologists do ignore these subjects? I certainly don't consider them separate.
This concept is what drives Sir Rodger Penrose.

1) How would you know what drives him?
2) If it doesn't drive him to test hypotheses, he's not very driven.
Combining General Relativity and Quantum Mechanics results in some interesting conclusions.

Science is about testing hypotheses, not about generating interesting conclusions.
While many people don't like the implications, Penrose's OR quantum interpretation is testable and is being tested.

Then point me to the data instead of his speculations.
Its implications to the study of consciousness is potentially very profound.

Potentially, yes. Probably, not at all.
Joy claims to be a “professional fool”.  Sometimes listening to fools allows you to think outside artificial barriers of thinking (“outside the box”).

Sometimes, but not this time.

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