Joined: May 2006
|You guys are merely proving my point. The only thing you seem to be interested in is attacking me personally. |
That's the whole theme of Expelled, you lie about us, we respond like anyone unfairly accused, and then you're whimpering about how you're abused.
Well guess what, we don't actually appreciate a bunch of dishonest attacks. We didn't come out and attack you, you came out and lied about us.
Learn some decency. We're not going to "meet you halfway" on your implications that we're Nazis or Stalinists, we're going to demand that you support such dishonest attacks.
Furthermore, not only do you refuse to supply evidence that ID is anything but a whiny bunch of lies about science, you can't supply any evidence that it's been treated inappropriately by science, or that there is a lack of opennness to its claims (it's been discussed in excruciating detail on the web, and a good deal elsewhere). The fact is that you're a bunch of incompetent losers who can't make a case for your claims, from persecution to your supposed science, and there's no reason for us not to tell that truth.
As I've asked previously on the web, just what evidence would IDists supply, if they weren't (supposedly) limited to supplying "naturalistic" or "materialistic" evidence (those modifiers merely stand in place of other considerations, in any event)?
I've never gotten a reply to that question.
Or to put it another way, how would Kevin Miller like to be tried in court without using the standards of evidence used in both science and in courts? I've never gotten a response to those questions I've asked of IDists either.
And no, we're not going to be "open" to the idea that evidence-free tripe is worth considering. Come up with evidence that is repeatable and arguable, and then we'll talk. The blather that Miller hopes will obfuscate the fact that he has no evidence and no arguments is not grounds for a discussion.
We wouldn't be attacking you personally if you actually could do anything but attack us first, Miller. It's your lack of any sort of considerable evidence and arguments that leaves us no choice but to attack you for bringing in intellectually dishonest tripe.
Nothing in biology makes sense except in the light of coincidence---ID philosophy