Joined: June 2007
|Quote (Stephen Elliott @ June 10 2007,19:49)|
|Quote (Ftk @ June 10 2007,11:36)|
You seem to be quite certain that I am being deceived and that you, after several discussions here, have finally seen the light. When did this occur and what was it that brought you to reality?
Are there old threads I can read where you initially supported ID? Where are the threads that document your conversion. I'd be curious to see what the heck brought out of "delusion" and into reality.
To be fair ftk,
My conversion was not on this blog but "Pandas Thumb". But it wasn't really a conversion. I just "followed the evidence".
The thing is that there are no simplistic answers here. You just get a shed load of convergent evidence. All of which are backed up by arguments with evidence/explanations. It is much cooler than arguments from authority.
Guess what. If you can actually provide contrarian evidence, people would actually listen.
You would need actual evidence though.
BTW. You have definately been decieved. Somebody has lied to you.
just thought I'd pick up on your point and say ditto (though for me it was simply talk origins and a few good posts on a discussion forum that did it).
Again, it was just following the evidence. There was no assumption on my part: like all of a sudden I was going to just assume that we evolved instead (wow look, it too fits!!!). My assumption already was that we were specially created yadayada...
But the evidence, well that was pretty strong. Overwhelming in-fact. Damn those chromosomes!
Rather than a conversion, it would probably be right to call it a "lifting of weight". It was a wow moment for sure.
Afterwards I think it took me about three days to have a meaningful conversation about anything (I probably spent the meantime racing the world's best F1 cars playing GP2).
Glad you had a mind for the opening. Thus begins an enlightenment.
On June 23, 2007, 01:06 PM AFDave wrote: "How can we dismiss their theories without first reading their work?"