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(Permalink) Posted: June 09 2007,10:44   

Quote (Louis @ June 09 2007,07:50)
But seriously:

Chateau D'Yquem is good if you like dessert wines, sauternes, etc  but I have to say that, whilst I love them, they're hardly a session wine or a frequent drinker. That's not a criticism, more an observation. They are after all GORGEOUS.

Now with wine, one can talk of the big reds, the clarets etc and they have their place (my favourite is Margaux, that region has some of the best terroir in France in my opinion. Ch. Palmer, Ch. Margaux. Love 'em! Ch. Margaux has been owned by the same [Greek origin!!] family for ~40 years and they IMO [and that of a few others] have produced the best red bordeaux in the Medoc for ages. Costs a bit though) one can talk of the New World (sorry boys, but I think you and the Antipodeans over oak the majority of your wines. Oaking disguises the results of poor terroir dontcherknow. That's not to say that the New World wines are all bad, far from it. But our British market is saturated with their cheap end oaked whites and shallow reds, it give is a bad impression) but you cannot beat a glass of Chateau de Chassellier eh Obediah?

Sorry, mum and dad own a restaurant, I grew up with wine, and as wine appreciation has a strong chemistry element, I sort of am kind of erm interested in it.....{trails off as wine geekery is acknowledged}


Well sure, but when the price in Kansas is $180 for a split of D'Yquem from a good (not great) vintage, I'll make an exception. Hell, I'll even cook a dessert. I like a nice vanilla flan with Sauternes, and I have an excellent (Cuban) recipe for flan.

I agree with you about the Margaux, even if it was Richard Nixon's favorite wine. They are damn pricey over here though. While I was a post doc (late 1970's) I was fortunate enough to fall into a wine-tasting group in St. Louis, and one of the members was a very wealthy M.D. He treated us all to a vertical tasting of Ch. Margaux. My tasting notes indicate that we had the 1949, 1953, 1955, 1959 and 1961. The '49 and '53 were stunning, the '55 was not as good and was starting to fade, and the '59 and '61 were eminently drinkable, but probably would get even better with a few more years in bottle. I often wonder what that tasting cost him!

Even so, I have to say that my favorite red of all time was a 1959 Richebourg, which I had in the mid 1980's sometime. I haven't been able to drink any domestic pinot noirs since...

The St. Louis M.D.  would also regularly fly to London to pick up wines at auction from the estates of deceased (probably cirrhosis) Brits. The best thing that I can recall from one of those excursions was a port. Vintage 1899. Yeah, a port from the 19th century. It had faded to a tawny color, but it still tasted fine.

But the-wine-tasting options here in Manhattan KS are not quite up to that caliber, alas. And neither is my budget..

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