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(Permalink) Posted: April 11 2007,20:39   

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DS get's down to the specifics of what is and what is not designed:      
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Proteins donít automatically warrant a design inference. It depends...

It depends you say DS? Really? I say, this should be fasinating
   
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It depends on the function of the protein and interdependencies on other proteins

Oh rlly? That helps alot. It depends <blah blah blah>. This guy is unbelievable. He has the time to type in hundreds of words (it just goes on)
   
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The whole machine must be assembled and working in order produce the parts that make the up machine that makes the parts!
   
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Howíd that happen without a designer envisioning the entire machine in abstract then building all the hundreds of interlocking pieces that make it up simultaneously?
   
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To compound the problem you need a fully working automobile to gather the parts together to make an automobile.

I think what DS has failed to grasp, as evidenced by the next quote, is that behind every internet blog or site there are also 100's of scientists doing actual research.
   
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This is the story the chance & necessity pundits ask you to accept and take as a matter of materialistic faith that, impossible as it sounds, eventually science will reveal how it was done without intelligent agency.

chance & necessity pundits??? That says it all about DS . Pundits? It's not pundits that need to be convinced DS...
And evolution works at different speeds for DS    
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In 20,000 years of artificial selection and preservation of variants that never would have survived in the wild there hasnít been a single variant with an anatomical feature not characteristic of canines...<snip>Not even something as simple as a retractable claw.

But hang on, I remember at the start we we going to learn something about "when to make a design inference".
   
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Proteins donít automatically warrant a design inference. It depends...

Remember DS? What do we get instead?
   
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Intelligent agency solves all these problems.

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it seems premature to rule out exotic forms of intelligent agency that could very well be composed of non-baryonic matter that we only suspect exists through indirect observation of its gravitational effects on normal matter. In fact what we consider normal matter and energy may be the minority component and thus really an atypical form in the big picture

Link to the unsufferable IDiots post
Maybe DS can see the writing on the wall nonetheless?
 
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Hubris is rampant in the halls of science today. Of course thatís nothing new. The history of science is littered with disgarded theories that were once thought to be writ in granite.

Ask Behe about astrology and dover DS. See what he says about it.

How do you like the butlicking replies?
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Dave,

This is such a good essay (#16), why donít you repost it as a new topic so it wonít be lost in the comments here?

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Please do, DaveScot.
Iíve copied it and saved it to a word docÖ. but it would be cool if youíd post it as its own topic - easier retrieval.


p u k e. . .

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With most men, unbelief in one thing springs from blind belief in another. - Georg Christoph Lichtenberg

To do just the opposite is also a form of imitation. - Georg Christoph Lichtenberg

  
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