Joined: Mar. 2006
|Quote (Kristine @ April 02 2007,05:07)|
Oh dear. I'd better tone down my online personality! :D
|Quote (Reciprocating Bill @ April 01 2007,15:00)|
|I would have sworn you were the bonobo type.|
Too late. I just crossed the "Christian Theodicy" finish line!
|Quote (Zachriel @ April 01 2007,09:39)|
Note the means by Kekulé; work, inspiration, work.
That was a bit of a nod to Kristine's previous comments — in the hopes that she wouldn't try to hit herself in the head with a hammer.
And I offer this comment, without snark: wow.
I mean that, I'm not just being a smartass: wow. The guy believes in an old earth and in Adam and Eve (metaphorically, I think), in our (possible) evolution from hominids (he hedges about it) and in the Garden of Eden, which was spiritually isolated from the "natural evil" allowed to exist in the world in anticipation of humanity's choice to sin through free will... Uh, doesn't ask much of himself, does he? This is a lot to reconcile.
Okay, yeah, I hear the sniggering out there, but despite my Bill bias ya gotta give the guy some credit for being an abstract thinker - I don't buy what he's selling, but I would have rather sat through this than all the "God is fun, fun, fun!" pep-talks that have passed for sermons aimed at kids since the 1970s. I prefer intellectual games.
I guess I come away from this being impressed that he is really a good person at heart, but blinded by his worldview so that he has no moral qualms about shoehorning biology into his little retrofitted spirit world. He's intelligent, but a two-dimensional thinker; I wish he would make an attempt to put aside all the preconceived ideas and just learn - about biology, about literature, about a lot of things without trying to pigeonhole them.
I don't have a neat and whole worldview like this, but he probably assumes that I (and other "Darwinists") do; he doesn't understand how to live with uncertainty, so he assumes that we do the same thing he's doing here. No, no, not so. At least I have a better understanding of the gulf between us and ID believers.
Who is trying to have their blind spot beyond their horizon and their rosy world view too?
I seem to recall Bill the confessor gloating over a certain professor of comparative religion's (in Kansas?) black eye ostensibly received from a couple of red neck truck drivers on a quiet country road, which occurred after his infamous email 'sticking it to their fat fundy faces' when he was going to add ID/creationism as simple myth to his course.
Romanticize away with 'Billy the Kreationist Kid' a Psalm Slinger of the Old East as he rides into town on the back of his flock of sheep with his devil may care disregard of the law (in particular the constitution).
His Law comes out of the mouth of his ass as some sort of Sharia, where one gives unto Kaiser Bill what is gods.
Who needs a Stasi (Ministerium für Staatssicherheit) god squad when it can be outsourced to the free market? Dissenters in his heaven are 'taken care of' and Jesus packs heat. All with his Alfred E. Neuman 'who me' look.
As far as I'm concerned he's lower than a snakes arsehole in a wagon rut.
You could try seeing if he can be 'converted' to play on the other team ...I suppose... but it would take more than a shimmy in a feather boa.
In which case I say ...bring me the head of Bill the Baptist.
The conservative has but little to fear from the man whose reason is the servant of his passions, but let him beware of him in whom reason has become the greatest and most terrible of the passions.These are the wreckers of outworn empires and civilisations, doubters, disintegrators, deicides.Haldane