Joined: June 2004
|Quote (wintermute @ Mar. 26 2007,06:51)|
|Quote (Arden Chatfield @ Mar. 25 2007,17:49)|
|What's always puzzled me about it is its hidden implication. It seems to say to me, "Shit, if I knew Jehovah wouldn't punish me, I'd kill rape and rob everyone I saw. He11, how stupid ARE you that you don't share my fear of God, yet you aren't a selfish nihilist?" Really? is this an, uh, accurate glimpse of what you'd do if your fear of a Big Sky Daddy punishing you were lifted? Explain to me again why your theism makes you a 'better person' than me?|
When I'm faced with people who tell me that atheists are all immoral, evil, baby-raping, homosexual murderers* (I think that's a direct quote), my response is something like: "Really? Are you seriously telling me that you cannot think of a single reason not to do all those things, other than that God tells you not to? That if you were to have a crisis of faith tomorrow, you'd be killing, stealing and raping before the day was out?"
If they say "Well... No. I suppose not..." then we can start a dialogue on the subject of ethics, and whether or not Christians really are better people.
If they say "Yes, that's exactly what I mean" (and it has happened), I back away slowly, being sure not to make any sudden movements.
* "homosexual murderers" does not mean "people who murder homosexuals", which is apparently OK.
An interesting point. Years ago when I fist 'discovered' chat rooms (which I now avoid like the plague), I was chatting with a fellow in an 'atheism' room, and we decided to 'go private' (not that way). He was a fundy, and he at one point asked me what I would do if I found out my son was gay. I replied, "Beat him." As I was typing a follow up message - "Just kidding, of course." - he writes "Me too, I guess we are not all that different."
I knew then that there are actually people that require fear of Hellfire to be decent people.