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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 24 2009,13:59   

This debate was rediculous from the beginning. Why not end it now?

Claim CA622:
Without a literal Fall, there is no need for redemption and thus no need for Jesus or Christianity.
Grant, Heber J., Anthony W. Ivins, and Charles W. Nibley. n.d. Mormon view of evolution.
Morris, Henry M. 1998. The fall, the curse, and evolution. Back to Genesis 112 (Apr.).
1. It is sin in general, and not merely one particular instance of sin, that makes redemption necessary. If you can find any sin in the world, then the claim is baseless. Proof of this is given by the fact that many Christians feel the need for redemption but do not believe in a literal Fall.

2. This claim implies that sin and redemption are about things that happened thousands of years ago, not about anything happening to us today. It makes religion less relevant to people's lives.

3. Origins are not determined by our personal decisions of what religion to follow.

If you need a man-made book to beleive in a God who is said to have created the universe, of what value is your faith? You might as well worship an idol.

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