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(Permalink) Posted: Aug. 02 2011,06:05   

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Can anybody be dumber than deNews:      
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Duesberg has a history with respect to the AIDS virus. We knew we’d heard the name somewhere.
Indeed:
Baumann E et al. (1995) AIDS proposal. Group for the Scientific Reappraisal of the HIV/AIDS Hypothesis. Science 267:945-946      
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In 1991, we, the Group for the Scientific Reappraisal of the HIV/AIDS Hypothesis, became dissatisfied with the state of the evidence that the human immunodeficiency virus (HIV) did, in fact, cause AIDS.

Specifically, we have proposed that researchers independent of the HIV establishment should audit the Centers for Disease Control's records of AIDS cases, bearing in mind that the correlation of HIV with AIDS, upon which the case for HIV causation rests, is itself an artefact of the definition of AIDS. Since 1985, exactly the same diseases or conditions have been defined as "AIDS" when antibodies are present, and as "non-AIDS" when HIV and antibodies are absent. Independent professional groups such as the Society of Actuaries should be invited to nominate members for an independent commission to investigate the following question: How frequently do AIDS-defining diseases (or low T cell counts) occur in the absence of HIV? Until we have a definition of AIDS that is independent of HIV, the supposed correlation of HIV and AIDS is mere tautology.

Other independent researchers should examine the validity of the so-called "AIDS tests," especially when these tests are used in Africa and Southern Asia, to see if they reliably record the presence of antibodies, let alone live and replicating virus.

The bottom line is this: the skeptics are eager to see the results of independent scientific testing. Those who uphold the HIV "party line" have so far refused. We object.

   Eleen Baumann
   Tom Bethell
   Harvey Bialy
   Peter H. Duesberg
   Celia Farber
   Charles L. Geshekter
   Phillip E. Johnson
   Robert W. Maver
   Russell Schoch
   Gordon T. Stewart
   Richard C. Strohman
   Charles A. Thomas Jr.

   For the Group for the Scientific Reappraisal of the HIV/AIDS Hypothesis.

cited from here.

Wasn't Richard Strohman Jonathan Wells's PhD advisor?

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