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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 13 2009,10:57   

Quote (RFJE @ Feb. 12 2009,23:03)
Quote (Kristine @ Feb. 12 2009,10:07)
RFJE, in all seriousness, I think it's extremely dangerous for your sister to defy medical advice simply to test her own faith this way. Doesn't your Bible teach you not to put your God to the test? You believe in Jesus; even he would not leap from the mountain with the faith that angels would rescue him.

Anyway, it's my understanding (correct me if I'm wrong, people) that lactose intolerance is due to a dominant gene, so there is no "illness" about not being able to drink milk any more than having brown eyes is an "illness."

Hi Kristine,
First of all I wanted to apologize to you for my initial approach.  I was new and could have been more gentle.

Second, I agree that it would be dangerous if she was  ordered not to.  I don't think she had lactose intolerance, the MD told her she was allergic to milk.  She couldn't drink  acidophilous milk either.  I did not go with her to to the doctor (it was when she was 12 and she is now 46) and this is what she always told us the doctor said.

In any case, I don't think she saw it as putting God to the test.  She had a relationship with God and that was between her God.  In any case, she has been drinking milk for years with never a problem.

I have never known any Christians who would advocate such foolishness as to not seek medical help, or to follow a doctor's orders.  Anyone who would not bring their sick child to a doctor in the name of their faith, and then that child is hurt or dies, should be prosecuted.  There are extremists in every branch of life.

As for the case in Africa, you have to understand that they are a more spiritually based culture.  The idea that there is no spirit world to them to mock, just like atheists here mock Christians.  And I am talking about predominantly the village culture, (which is where I worked mainly) not urban upper class.

Some good missionary friends of ours were Presbyterian--great folks!  Presbyterians are not closed to miracles, but are very conservative in their views towards that subject.  They believe that was mainly confined to the apostles. But they had been in Africa for 10 years when we came.  They told us  they were praying with a man to receive Christ one time and the fetish rings(worn for spiritual protection) on his hands suddenly flew off his hands.  

If you read about the evangelistic crusades in Africa there are many miracles reported by people who are listening to the preaching--Africans in the bush--not a TV evangelist telecast.  

Finally, one last thought, this is getting long.  Jesus couldn't do any miracles in Nazareth, his childhood home because of their unbelief. (Matt. 14:53-58)  I think America is like Nazareth.  Many people are offended at anything that has anything to do with God (v.57) just like they were at Him.


Spiritual isn't the right word. Superstitious might fit better. And missionaries have been taking advantage of them for ages. Do you think it an accomplishment to convert these people, when they also believe the catholic church when they tell them condoms are evil and cause aids, and that the little girl down the street is a witch? Do you feel proud, every time they kill one?

They don't need preaching, they need education. They need proper schools, and teachers. But you aren't interested in helping people - you just want more souls.

To rebut creationism you pretty much have to be a biologist, chemist, geologist, philosopher, lawyer and historian all rolled into one. While to advocate creationism, you just have to be an idiot. -- tommorris

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