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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 17 2009,17:33   

As for Intelligent Design, "It is not creationism," Dembski said. "It's engineering."

Dembski knows squat about engineering. Let's hope that Dembski takes his message to the engineering community; we could use more ID critics.

Engineering is comprised of engineering analysis and engineering design.

Engineering analysis models existing objects and processes (as does science.)

Engineering design invents objects and processes. The resulting engineering designs (i.e., patterns) are models of these potential objects and processes.

Engineering is all about models. ID, of course, eschews models.

ID entails research that seeks to discover evidence of design, or engineering, within nature.

Engineering, of course, does not entail that at all. Engineers doing engineering have no need to seek evidence of intelligent design.

Bottom line: IDists don't do what engineers do, and engineers don't do what IDists do.

Dembski has tried and failed to tie ID to Engineering before. Anyone interested should see this UD thread: MITís Department of Biological Engineering. [It features a special guest equivocation by Sal Cordova.]

Edit: this message his message

Invoking intelligent design in science is like invoking gremlins in engineering. [after Mark Isaak.]
All models are wrong, some models are useful. - George E. P. Box

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