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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 30 2007,12:36   

Now that Anthony Flew believes in a God, the IDers love him.  Dembski quotes some of "There Is a God" here:

Now I am certainly not as much a philosopher of Dr. Flew, but some of the points he makes seem like the rantings of someone who never understood the atheism he espoused:

I therefore put to my former fellow-atheists the simple central question: ‘What would have to occur or to have occurred to constitute for you a reason to at least consider the existence of a superior Mind?

What kind of atheist was Flew if he never "at least considered" the existence of a "superior mind"?  I am an atheist and "consider the existence of a superior mind" daily; I consistently fail to find reason to believe in such a thing, however.

Flew goes on to posit three "evidences" for God:
The first is the fact that nature obeys laws.

What else would nature obey?

The second is the dimension of life, of intelligently organized and purpose-driven beings, which arose from matter.

So since we don't know how the first self-replicating creatures were formed, God?  Or is Dr. Flew trying to make a different point here?

The third is the very existence of nature.

What else would exist?

I have also been helped by a renewed study of the classical philosophical arguments.

The argument from ontology, perhaps?  Perhaps the argument from first cause?  Shocking stuff.

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