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franky172



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(Permalink) Posted: June 15 2007,08:44   

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Dumbski has a go, he thinks he's hard enough.    
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But the evidence for attaining via sequential mutations the types of systems Behe considers is nil. The Darwinists have no step-by-step detailed testable scenarios for evolutionary processes attaining such systems. Stepwise mutational pathways to such systems for now exist only in Coyne’s imagination and that of his fellow Darwinists


On the plus side, how you look is now fair game.


what a pathetic attempt. More street theatre Dr Dr Dr Dembski?

Davescot chimes in too:    
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Coyne and his chance worshipping peers are stuck between a rock and a hard place. The rock is gradualism and the hard place is Haldane’s Dilemma. As gradualism gets more gradual Haldane’s Dilemma gets more difficult to overcome - there’s a limit to the number of mutations that can become fixed. As gradualism gets less gradual then the improbability of simultaneous beneficial mutations becomes more difficult to overcome. A truly classic example of being stuck between a rock and a hard place!


Dover DS? Dover. Rock and hard place indeed. And anyway, his entire comment is about "chance worshippers". What I want to know is at what point the designer decided to intervene and create some "simultaneous beneficial mutations" because at this point we've got zero IDea of what the IDiots are proposing if "simultaneous beneficial mutations" are impossible under naturalistic circumstances.
Link, if you can take high level tard anyways.

I like this:

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But the evidence for attaining via sequential mutations the types of systems Behe considers is nil. The Darwinists have no step-by-step detailed testable scenarios for evolutionary processes attaining such systems. Stepwise mutational pathways to such systems for now exist only in Coyne’s imagination and that of his fellow Darwinists.


Wasn't their just a paper published (PNAS?) that analyzed all the pathways to a genome that had several mutations and found 20 paths by which all the mutations were beneficial?

Does anyone know what I'm talking about?

  
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