Joined: June 2006
|Quote (C.J.O'Brien @ May 10 2007,15:13)|
|Gawd, what a pompous blowhard:|
Vladimir Krondan writes on the giraffe thread (Yes, they're actually on about the giraffe... anybody following this?)
|Ah, yes, the second law. The show-stopper. Or rather, the show-beginner. You can be talking shop about diffusion-advection, Onsager reciprocity, driving terms, conjugate-gradient solvers, and all that. A Darwinian, understanding nothing of what you are saying, will wait until you are misfortunate enough to mention the second law, or until he sees the letter “S” in an equation. And that’s his cue - the show begins with “you don’t understand the second law…” and builds into the usual tedious lecture assembled from web cut-and-pastes. In the process of this tedious lecture, the Darwinian will present the usual confusions between open, closed, and isolated systems, and probably throw in mindless nonsense like “the second law doesn’t apply to open systems!!”. But do so he must, for it seems he has no free will about it.|
Krondan jumps on a passing mention of the 2nd Law to complain about Darwinians who jump on mentions of the 2nd Law.
Yes, Krondan, we're hopelessly inept when we say that the 2nd Law doesn't make exceptions for things like evolution and typing sentences. Silly us, standing up for the Laws of Thermo.
"I wasn't aware that classical physics had established a position on whether intelligent agents exercising free were constrained by 2LOT into increasing entropy." -DaveScot