Bob O'H
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Oh, this is hilarious (read: Dave, you need to leap into action to stop it!). The
DO personal beliefs change behavior thread descended into a theological.
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larrynormanfan
02/02/2008
10:58 pm
I wonder if the same results would have occurred if the subjects had been given a Christian treatise against free will (such as Martin Luther’s The Bondage of the Will).
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Mapou
02/02/2008
11:45 pm
larrynormanfan wrote: I wonder if the same results would have occurred if the subjects had been given a Christian treatise against free will (such as Martin Luther’s The Bondage of the Will).
I take this as a not so subtle attack against Christianity. You are apparently aiming to discredit the Christian faith by pointing out its inconsistencies and conflicts. But so what if Christianity is inconsistent and filled with conflicts? Do you have something else in mind for Christians to fall back on? Is science (the atheistic kind) somehow free from inconsistencies and conflicts?
Christians worship Jesus Christ and his Father. That’s it. We honor and admire but we don’t worship human beings (Martin Luther included) regardless of their apparent greatness. At any rate, debates and arguments on free will are notoriously fuzzy. It is highly likely that you are misinterpreting Luther’s original intent.
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larrynormanfan
02/02/2008
11:55 pm
Mapou, I’m a Christian, so no, it’s not an attack against Christianity. It’s an attack against an idiotic study that proves nothing and makes unwarranted assumptions. And as it happens, I agree with Luther on the whole. I read The Bondage of the Will over twenty years ago and have never forgotten it.
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Mapou
02/03/2008
12:06 am
larrynormanfan wrote: Mapou, I’m a Christian, so no, it’s not an attack against Christianity.
My apologies.
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Gerry Rzeppa
02/03/2008
12:46 am
“Christians worship Jesus Christ and his Father. That’s it.” - Mapou
“…And I believe in the Holy Ghost, the Lord and Giver of Life; who proceeds from the Father and the Son; who with the Father and the Son together is worshipped and glorified; who spoke by the prophets.” - Nicene Creed
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Mapou
02/03/2008
3:17 am
Gerry, thanks for that quote. Even though I’m Christian, I don’t have much knowledge or understanding about the nature and function of the Holy Spirit. I just assume it to be a part of the Godhead. There is no doubt in my mind, however, that the Father and the Son are like the right and left hemispheres of the God’s brain respectively. I find it easier to identify with this metaphor. |
What's the going rate for apostasy these days?
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It is fun to dip into the various threads to watch cluelessness at work in the hands of the confident exponent. - Soapy Sam (so say we all)
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