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Arden Chatfield



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 28 2006,07:41   

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But Davescot said many times that hateful speech leads to hateful actions. PT is littered with hateful speech toward Christian/religious/fundamentalist people.


Do you spend much time at PT? There's actually quite a diverse set of people there (unlike at UD). You will find people who hate Christianity, people who hate religion, people who are ambivalent toward Christianity and religion, and people who ARE Christians and/or religious. All mixed together. When people bash all religions there or bash Christians in general, they get called on it. People argue there. It's what happens when a lot of very different people get thrown together in one place (again, unlike UD). What unites most of them is a desire for the teaching of real science not to be supplanted by government-mandated Biblical literalism.

As for 'hateful speech toward fundamentalists', that is a different matter. Much as I don't buy the idea that criticizing Zionism is the same as anti-Semitism, I don't accept that criticizing fundamentalists is the same thing as criticizing or hating Christianity. There are millions of people in this country who believe that fundamentalists are actually doing a huge amount of harm to this country. Fundamentalist movements are trying to destroy, control or censor science, and to dictate laws that would restrict the freedom or criminalize the beliefs of people who disagree with them. That is very corrosive to American society, and I see nothing wrong at all at attacking THAT mindset. Bashing Christianity itself is hypocritical and serves no purpose. Aggressive fundamentalism is a different thing, tho, in that it seeks to enslave and dominate others. It's a political movement. As such, attacking it is fair game. If fundamentalists think that's the same as 'attacking religion', that's their problem.

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