Richardthughes
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Joined: Jan. 2006
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I love it when they play "scientist"!
http://www.uncommondescent.com/archives/1766#comments
| Quote | 4. bFast // Nov 6th 2006 at 11:09 pm
Atom, “Self-genetic engineering.”
In light of the repeatability of this experiment, that does seem to be Ockham’s explanation.
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Hmm... Does this mean I can wish for laser vision?
| Quote | 11. PaV // Nov 7th 2006 at 8:37 am
Benjy_Compson:
“Would you please spell it out? ”
It’s a “pre-programmed response” on the part of the organism.
Comment by PaV — November 7, 2006 @ 8:37 am
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That's right, within all of us there's a little dictionary for every change we might need to face, genetically. Actually, it would have to be a BIG dictionary. A big onnescent dictionary. As these IDers are all (dis)information theorists, which mechanism would be smaller, RM + NS or the metachangedictionarythatgodputthere ?
| Quote | 12. HodorH // Nov 7th 2006 at 11:09 am
It’s a “pre-programmed response” on the part of the organism.
Well, then this would represent an opportunity for some real ID/frontloading research. If the cells are frontloaded, then all or most should experience the mutation upon replication. Conversely, RM/NS would predict that the population of new and improved bacteria arose from a single mutant (or one mutant followed by another, since there are apparently 2 mutations). I think this is a doable experiment — I’ll think about how it would be done.
Comment by HodorH — November 7, 2006 @ 11:09 am
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Get the Templeton foundation on the phone!
| Quote | 13. DaveScot // Nov 7th 2006 at 11:10 am
rrf
The designer isn’t intervening. Obviously since the same enzyme keeps “evolving” over and over again in a matter of days (the experiment was repeated 50 times) it isn’t appearing de novo but exists in some form where its emergence is inevitable. That’s not evolution. Evolution isn’t supposed to be repeatable like that. If you didn’t know that you really shouldn’t be commenting here.
Comment by DaveScot — November 7, 2006 @ 11:10 am
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Oh, davetard. How do you know the desinger isn't intervening? Do you have a zero-wavelength energy detector? Is that what your tinfoil hat does?
Evolution isn't supposed to be repeatable. Otherwise we'd get things like parallel evolution. Optimization must clearly choose a new solution each time. Its a bit like ordering things at the restaurant; no two can be the same.
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