GaryGaulin
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| Quote (Texas Teach @ June 03 2018,00:51) | | Quote (GaryGaulin @ June 01 2018,23:36) | | Quote (Texas Teach @ May 29 2018,16:12) | NWells just dropped the mic so hard a crack appeared and molten lava bubbled out.
I predict that Gary will claim that the phrase used in a cartoon for preschoolers supersedes all the people who actually know what they are talking about. I am now also imagining him telling his doctor she is wrong based on what he learned on Doc McStuffins. |
I could not help but entertain the remote possibility of there being some jealously towards Kansas involved in your most recent weird behavior.
Although I'm not an authority on Doc McStuffins the concept of a hospital for toys certainly correlates with the awesome toys that some older scientists get to play with. See first sentence of my reply to the Panda's Thumb article - Who gets to define "theory"?
pandasthumb.org/archives/2018/05/define-theory.html#comment-3927280504 |
1). I haven’t mentioned Kansas in recent memory. I’ve lost track of where the pendulum of sanity vs insanity is with regards to the Kansas science standards, but given the recent attempts to run a state on no tax revenue, I’m guessing the education system isn’t one of the best. |
The current national report card shows Kansas and Texas to both have an average score of 241, the national average is 239. The state I live in Massachusetts is at the top of the list with 249. Other scores I have seen that look at only science reflect the same trend:
www.nationsreportcard.gov/profiles/stateprofile?chort=1&sub=MAT&sj=&sfj=NP&st=MN&year=2017R3
This report does indicate the Donald Trump echoed tax cuts negatively impacted their schools:
The Tax Experiment That Failed
www.theatlantic.com/video/index/558143/kansas-tax-cuts/
The same happening at the federal level could be doubly devastating. Kansas is though none the less still a state worth watching, yes?
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2). Nothing especially unique happened during the period you’re so obsessed with. Creationist meddling is all too common in states full of religious zealots. Dover was far more significant nationally and historically, and the shenanigans of the Texas State Board of Education have been more important to my day to day teaching. |
If nothing especially unique happened during the period then all of Kansas would have gone the way of Dover. In both situations there was an overwhelming amount of opposition against the Discovery Institute that wanted to make an expensive to the taxpayer court case out of it so that their lawyer(s) can put Charles Darwin on trial, as they tried to do during the Dover trial that finally gave them the chance, but the judge rightly expected them to stop attacking another theory and explain how the "mechanism" of their "theory of intelligent design" works. I expect the same.
What matters is that the DI did not get what they really wanted from Kansas. That's more or less what Jack Krebs and others were hoping for. Dover, Pennsylvania later became as you said "far more significant nationally and historically".
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3). No, a cartoon about toys and scientific equipment have almost nothing to do with each other. Your inability to grasp or use metaphors is astounding. |
Well then here's one my toys! This HP5988A research grade Mass Spectrometer would have otherwise been sent to a scrap yard has dual water cooled diffusion pumps to create the vacuum conditions of outer space, and just getting them going again without a "boil up" that trashes the internal system was more of an adrenaline rush than even my Mr Machine earlier was. Due to the computer part of the system being obsolete I had to first add an interface and write my own software that directly controls the electronics. The stainless steel vacuum chamber is so shiny light reflected in a way that made it look it had a burnout or something, when actually no high heat is involved and vacuum like this makes things implode not explode and is at least as safe as a typical household power tool.
Now beat that!
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4). Your comments on the PT thread demonstrate that you don’t understand science in the least. Thinking that we should use the same word for both what babies and scientists do shows that you don’t even grasp the purpose of language, much less science. |
One of the most annoying problems in "science" are those who dwell over semantics of words, yet have never even on their own accelerated then smashed ions into a electron multiplier target while drawing out the spectra of molecules and their fragments after having been controllably blasted apart by an electron beam inside the ion source.
When it comes to writing a scientific theory: you can't even get started. There can be nothing more scientifically boring than that. Especially since in this case that's how to as they say "beat them at their own game" just by explaining how basic physics, chemistry and biology work in context of the most basic cognitive science models. Besides, the DI introduced ID as a big-tent where all are welcome to help write theory. Therefore we were already kinda invited to get in a ring and we don't even have to leave home to join the circus. With the way the DI changes over time in response to the mishaps in other rings it's much like a game there too. Instead of our being powerless spectators we become a side attraction that may never get their spotlight, but the others in the game did not even get beyond the premise that really only makes sense in the light of cognitive science. Safety nets made out philosophy do not work in a "scientific arena". I can't understand why someone like you would not want the theory/show to go on. Science thrives on competitive journeys of discovery. Regardless of this much to you like trying to beat adults acting like babies by joining them you need to do something other than play their game by not.
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5). Thinking that your education via pre-school cartoon puts you on equal footing with people who have spent most of their lives studying and practicing science is comic arrogance rarely seen in history. |
Yammering on about how the Dinosaur Train definition for a hypothesis is not good enough for you may make you look childish to even the children.
I'm very certain that inside a real world lab full of toys I have already played with: my footing would still be much better than yours.
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The theory of intelligent design holds that certain features of the universe and of living things are best explained by an intelligent cause, not an undirected process such as natural selection.
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