KevinB
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Molson BleuFebruary 11, 2018 at 2:52 pm
“We need to recognise what we are, before we can have a fruitful discussion . . . as has been demonstrated again and again for years here at UD.”
No, we have to convince those opposed to ID what we are before we can have a fruitful discussion. Otherwise we are just preaching to the choir. And we don’t get there by repeatedly talking about immortal souls, objective morality and the like. We get there by sticking to ID concepts that can be demonstrated empirically. That is why I asked the question about whether ID theory requires organisms to be more than the interaction of their designed arrangement of matter and energy.
“Repeatedly, the root problems lie in evolutionary materialistic scientism and its fellow travellers, not the strength of ID-supportive arguments.”
No, the root problems lie in the arguments we are presenting, and the way we present them. We keep telling everyone that ID is not about religion, and then keep talking about religion and other theological subjects on what is supposed to be an ID web site. To be completely honest, if I believed in evolution and came to this web site, or the other web sites that support ID, I would not take the arguments very seriously. ‘You are judged by the company you keep.’
“PS: What are your thoughts on the AI focus and where I think it points?”
I have not read them in any detail. AI is well beyond my area of competence. |
[URL=https://uncommondescent.com/ethics/science-worldview-issues-and-society/a-thought-on-soul-body-spirit-and-on-the-meaning-of-death-in-the-judaeo-christian-frame-of
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Finally, an IDist who won’t comment outside his competence level. Mullings should take the hint. |
And take a vow of silence? |
That would violate the Laws of Identity and Non-Contradiction and maybe even the 2nd Law of Thermodynamics. |
Not to mention Nasse's Law, Burke's Law and Cole's Law,
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