GaryGaulin
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I bolded something Joe G said pertaining to GA's that would be true where one argues that they (at least rudimentarily) model how "evolution" works. The problem with them of course is how they oversimplify an extremely complex interaction of trillions of atoms, molecules, cells and forces including consciousness in the system. Yet a GA is still at least an (unsuccessful but have to start somewhere) attempt to model creation as per the Theory of Intelligent Design.
Considering how David Abel (last I knew) hated ID as much as Wesley does, Larry's blog now at least has the best real-life science comedy around!
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Joe G
Wednesday, April 16, 2014 3:36:00 PM
I should hustle over to UD because you are an ignorant moron? How does that work? Heck your blog is full of idiots. And as opposed to you I would gladly say that to all of your faces
Laurence A. Moran
Wednesday, April 16, 2014 4:10:00 PM
I'd be more than happy to say it to your face. What's your real name and where do you really live?
Joe G
Wednesday, April 16, 2014 4:19:00 PM
Joe Gallien, Ashburnham, MA- just let me know when you are coming and I will tell you where we can meet.
DAK
Wednesday, April 16, 2014 4:22:00 PM
Jon G, can you model the version of evolution that you accept?
Joe G
Wednesday, April 16, 2014 4:32:00 PM
Genetic and evolutionary algorithms model Intelligent Design Evolution.
Mikkel Rumraket Rasmussen
Wednesday, April 16, 2014 4:44:00 PM
*facepalm*
Joe G
Wednesday, April 16, 2014 5:26:00 PM
Translation- Mikkel is ignorant
Rich Hughes
Wednesday, April 16, 2014 6:15:00 PM
Ignorant of a phrase you just made up, "Genetic and evolutionary algorithms model Intelligent Design Evolution", Chubs.
judmarc
Wednesday, April 16, 2014 7:04:00 PM
Genetic and evolutionary algorithms model Intelligent Design Evolution.
Interesting you can say that, since you've given no indication of understanding what those "algorithms" are, down to the fundamental principles of the way the math works.
judmarc
Wednesday, April 16, 2014 7:07:00 PM
We attack blind watchmaker/ unguided evolution.
'Cause only a supremely intelligent entity would know enough to put useless nipples on guys.
Mikkel Rumraket Rasmussen
Wednesday, April 16, 2014 7:17:00 PM
These IDiots really are enthralled by their vapid technical jargon. Stick the word "machine" or "information" in some sentence about biology and their heads explode.
Particularly gruesome examples are seen in the pseudo-publications of YEC David "Department of ProtoBioCybernetics and ProtoBioSemiotics" Abel. They're so overloaded with fancy sounding words used in engineering and computer science, IDiots often quote them all over the place without even knowing what any of it means.
Joe G
Wednesday, April 16, 2014 8:28:00 PM
Genetic and evolutionary algorithms use goal-oriented targeted searches to achieve their results. Natural selection is NOT like that. Drift is not like that..judmarc you are just a moron and mikkel is an imecile
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I studied Joe's method when they were muddling the NCSE and noticed something brilliantly nuts about it. In this case their (best I can determine) true statement was challenged with a "nipples on guys" argument that had me laughing real loud from it being so inherently logically ridiculous. Woman prefer them on men anyway, for aesthetic purposes, so why even mention? Their swearing up a storm when prodded then maybe getting banned after already leaving something behind that all stepped in only adds to the hoopla.
Since I already went into a wall of text on the weaknesses of "GA" models (as they relate to the theory and IDLab model) I'm best to just leave the other GA related issues at what Joe G said: "Genetic and evolutionary algorithms model Intelligent Design Evolution."
With all above considered the best any in this forum can now do by glorifying Avida and other EA/GA models is to help prove that Joe is right. Arguing against them is logically the same as arguing against yourself, totally self-defeating. It's excellent way of countering similar arguments being hurled at me in this thread. That in turn helps add to what Larry stepped in at his now Sandwalk kitty-litter box blog where all best watch their step too......
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The theory of intelligent design holds that certain features of the universe and of living things are best explained by an intelligent cause, not an undirected process such as natural selection.
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