Joe G
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| Quote (olegt @ Mar. 02 2013,09:01) | | Quote (The whole truth @ Mar. 01 2013,23:25) | And then there's this from joey:
CSI for Dummies
CSI stands for Complex Specified Information
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IOW complex specified information is a term to differentiate between Shannon Information and information that has a specific meaning.
Shannon information does not care about content or meaning, ie it does not care about specification. All the weight goes to the number of characters transmitted.. |
In that post Joe conflates two different senses of the word information. Let's crack open a dictionary:
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Information:
1: the communication or reception of knowledge or intelligence
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a (1) : knowledge obtained from investigation, study, or instruction (2) : intelligence, news (3) : facts, data
b : the attribute inherent in and communicated by one of two or more alternative sequences or arrangements of something (as nucleotides in DNA or binary digits in a computer program) that produce specific effects
c (1) : a signal or character (as in a communication system or computer) representing data (2) : something (as a message, experimental data, or a picture) which justifies change in a construct (as a plan or theory) that represents physical or mental experience or another construct
d : a quantitative measure of the content of information; specifically : a numerical quantity that measures the uncertainty in the outcome of an experiment to be performed
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So Joe thinks (or thought) that CSI helps to distinguish information as a message (sense 2b) from its quantitative measure (sense 2d). That's nonsense of course. |
No oleg, I didn't conflate anything. You are just a moron.
And of course CSI differentiates between Shannon information, ie mere complexity, and information as used in its normal/ ordinary sense. Only a moron would say otherwise.
And you just saying it is nonsense does not make it so. You actually have to make a case, and you can't.
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