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(Permalink) Posted: April 19 2012,09:14   

Quote (Richardthughes @ April 19 2012,08:52)
In a new (still in moderation) gambit Joe is going to teh ethereal nature of information:

 
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In storage devices. That does not mean the storage devices are the information.

Does a blank disk weigh more, less or the same as a programmed disk?


Weighs the same <> is the same. The information is the configuration. and even then its only information within an existing framework. Can we take both disks away and have keep the information without a substrate?

In 2007 the information on the internet weighed 0.2 millionths of an ounce.

http://discovermagazine.com/2007.......t:int=1

More recently we have this:

http://www.nature.com/news.......1.10186
 
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In 1961, IBM physicist Rolf Landauer argued that to reset one bit of information — say, to set a binary digit to zero in a computer memory regardless of whether it is initially 1 or 0 — must release a certain minimum amount of heat, proportional to the ambient temperature. New work has now finally confirmed that Landauer was right. To test the principle, the researchers created a simple two-state bit: a single microscopic silica bead held in a 'light trap' by a laser beam. (Abstract) The trap contains two 'valleys' where the particle can rest, one representing a 1 and the other a 0. It could jump between the two if the energy 'hill' separating them is not too high. The researchers could control this height by changing the power of the laser, and could 'tilt' the two valleys to tip the bead into one of them by moving the physical cell containing the bead slightly out of the laser's focus. By monitoring the position and speed of the particle during a cycle of switching and resetting the bit, they could calculate how much energy was dissipated


bits = heat = materialism. No magic non-material information found, required or needed.

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