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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 14 2012,15:50   

Quote (Erasmus @ FCD,Mar. 14 2012,13:30)
check out this piece

http://www.blythinstitute.org/images.....502.pdf

     
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The first aim of this paper is to describe a set of phenomena I will call “nonphysical phenomena,” because they defy physical understanding categorically.


spoiler alert, doesn't actually describe such phenomena.  whodathunkit?


Actually it does, or at least tries to.  Here's a sample, using Turing machines:

     
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To summarize the argument:

1. General purpose programming requires programming languages that are Universal.
2. The “halting problem” states that there is no computable way that can tell for sure if a program written in a Universal language halts.
3. Humans are able to solve the halting problem as a matter of practice for programming computers (if the programs didn?t halt, the program would not work).
4. Using the definition for physics established earlier, a physical system is unable to solve the halting problem
5. If humans are only physical systems, 3 & 4 are in apparent contradiction.

To resolve the contradiction, one simply needs to move beyond the notion that physics is the only metaphysical reality at play, and there are other elements or aspects
that need to be accounted for.


Any theory that uses computer programmers as a demonstration of the existence of an ineffable, non-physical component to human existence has got my support.

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"The . . . um . . . okay, I was genetically selected for blue eyes.  I know there are brown eyes, because I've observed them, but I can't do it.  Okay?  So . . . um . . . coz that's real genetic selection, not the nonsense Giberson and the others are talking about." - DO'L

  
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