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eigenstate



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 03 2012,08:18   

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Any takers that Timeatus is Dembski's UD sock?

Asshole.

I don't think Dembski has the ability to even fake the elements of congeniality Timaeus shows (see, for example, his exchange with aiguy_again).

I can see the cogency of the appeals to authority you cite here, etc., but in my view, Dembski's soul has degenerated too far to muster that kind of friendly banter, even if it were to be for the purposes of "setting up" Dr. Liddle, or whoever.

But, that said, given some fairly blunt things I just said about Dembski, I guess maybe that's one (inadvertant) test. Does anyone think Dembski would suffer such assessments on (what was, once) his blog? He's really, thin-skinned, and he's thin-skinned even when dealing with people with credentials and stations in the scientific community that command some good will and forebearance. He won't suffer mere critics on his blog, especially ones that go after his ideas/advocacy in particular.

So we'll see, I guess.

I don't think Timaeus' congeniality, where he shows it, is fake. The resentment dynamic is strong in him, too, as he let show with Dr. Liddle just today. With Dembski, it metastasized long ago, and spread throughout.

It's not a perfect fit.

Yet, vis phony congeniality, isn't this what we might expect? It is certainly Dembski's pattern to dissolve into torrent of petulant bitterness when sufficiently provoked. And the resentment motivating this particular tirade is very telling:
   
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I think you are misusing your time. This is part of the cause of the friction you are feeling from me. I know many very fine scientists and scholars who, despite sterling academic records and substantial publications, never got university positions, and would kill to get one, and, if they got one, would never fritter away so much potential research time for the joys of internet blood sport.

This is thinly disguised jealousy of Liddle's academic position. And what is it that Dembski just lost?

Yeah, that does fit, the hostility in terms of academic station. I'd expect that to be a thinly veiled axe for grinding if it was Dembski -- er, I guess I'd really expect it to be an axe he's grinding away hard on, if not swinging wildly, but I can see him trying to keep a lid on it, and this could match, here.

I guess if Dembski was going to work a sock, I'd expect it to be thoroughly trollish, abusive. I agree that if his goal was to line up critics like Lizzie for engagement and then a (series of) slam(s), the obviously trolling mode wouldn't work. It seems a lot of work in "setup" that way, where being just an outright troll would afford so many chances at venting his spleen.

I've misjudged his self-control if it *is* him, and I'm not banninated in response to having his ego pricked by the things I've said about Dembski. When he was actively posting and "moderating" at UD back in the day, he had a hair-trigger on his banninator.

  
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