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A look into the mind of a lunatic (kairosfocus, posting with the username "Dictionary"):
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Delusional arrogant IDiot creationist
Dictionary | December 28, 2009 at 8:05 PM |
PS: And, remember just what you are mucking around with when you start to play footsie with pagan gods.
[And on this subject the real authority is Jesus of Nazareth; the risen Christ. he took demons very seriously and he has the resurrection from the dead with 500+ witnesses to prove that he know what he was talking about. Acts 19:8-20]
PPS: My recommendation is that you go find yourself a solid pastor who knows what he is dealing with, if you have been playing footsie with pagan gods. No joke!
Dictionary | December 29, 2009 at 1:49 AM |
Prof GP:
I see BU college is again in session, lead professor in charge.
Now that the Egyptian paganism front is in abeyance for the moment, a few notes on 2 Pet 3, bearing in mind the earlier survey of eschatology in the Deception thread, Dec 16 here:
1 –> Titus 2:11 – 14 gives a parallel pattern to 1 Jn 3:1 – 3, Heb 10, Eph 4:17 – 24 ff, etc, for how we should walk in this age, and indeed gives an outline of Christian Discipleship in a nutshell (one that would to God the church in our region would heed):
Titus 22:1 But as for you, communicate the behavior that goes with1 sound teaching . . . .
2:11 For the grace of God has appeared, bringing salvation to all people.16 2:12 It trains us17 to reject godless ways18 and worldly desires and to live self-controlled, upright, and godly lives in the present age, 2:13 as we wait for the happy fulfillment of our hope in the glorious appearing19 of our great God and Savior, Jesus Christ.20 2:14 He21 gave himself for us to set us free from every kind of lawlessness and to purify for himself a people who are truly his,22 who are eager to do good.23 2:15 So communicate these things with the sort of exhortation or rebuke24 that carries full authority.25 Don’t let anyone look down26 on you.
2 –> So, the course of discipleship is one of participating in the community of liberating and transforming truth through the gospel working by love in the Spirit’s power and the purity of God, based on his Word. (Note the vital four-point balance: love, truth, power, purity. IT IS UNATTAINABLE OUTSIDE OF THE SPIRIT OF GOD.)
3 –> And, the mark of that mind and way of life is one that confidently looks to the Eternal Kingdom that is already in the world but not yet at culmination. That certain culmination is ever imminent and yet we know that “a day is with the Lord as 1,000 years for us”; i.e. God is eternal.
4 –> From Ac 17 and Heb 6:1 – 2, we know too that a foundational “ABC” teaching of the gospel the resurrection of Jesus is a deposit-payment on that resurrection at his Appearing, and will lead on to Eternal Judgement. That “by the man revealed” through resurrection from the dead. So, we are stewards of God in our generation at any given time, with the imminence of the appearing before God — whether global or personal. (For, once we face death, we face resurrection and judgement; all guaranteed by the resurrection of Christ, with 500+ witnesses.)
5 –> Thus, it is no surprise that mockers would come, to distract us from that hope, and to lead us into the ways of the world; in the lusts of the flesh, the lusts of the eye and the pride of life. [1 Jn 2:15 - 17.]
6 –> And, one anchor to their materialism, their this-worldliness, is that they try to twist the blessings of science into a story that ignores the warning of Job 38: we were not there when the foundations of the world were laid, so we do not and cannot know the deep past by our own speculations on what we see. But, soon, instead of listening to and heeding the counsel of Him who was there [for he is our Creator-Sustainer] such men would darken God’s counsels by words without knowledge; falsely presented as SCIENTIA — literally, “knowledge.”
7 –> Little do these men reckon with the fact that [Jn 1:1 - 14] in the beginning the LOGOS –Reason Himself, Communication Himself, Wisdom Himself — was, and was with God and Was God, and that he made all things and without him was not anything made that was made. So, it is no surprise that we find intricate, life facilitating finetuning and organised complexity in the physics of the cosmos, and that we find the same in life, complete with language and algorithmic processing in the heart of the cell and in its biochemistry! Not to mention in the unreasonable effectiveness of mathematical and logical reasoning in revealing he splendours of the design of the world from microscopic to cosmic levels. Thus also, the unreasonable effectiveness of our minds and the voice of our consciences testify tot he Lord who made us and calls us to the ways of the truth and the right in love.
8 –> And, in the face of the chaos caused by our sins and permitted by God to stir us and remind us to reach out to him, however blindly [Ac 17], such men make up a different eschatology: progress to paradise on earth, by science, by technology, by clever political and bureaucratic messiahs; now in a unified global Babylon-ish world system.
9 –> Just as in the days of Nimrod, so soon as men were willing to forget the Flood!
10 –> The same flood that Peter reminds us [cf 1 Peter 3:18 - 22, and of course vv 5 - 7 in 2 Pet 3!], cataclysmed the world of those days, a world that spent 120 years mocking the preacher of righteousness as he built that which defied the way of the world since “time immemorial.” A FLOOD, on dry land like this — what nonsense! Rain? Rubbish, never happened, won’t happen. let’s get on with “real life: eating, drinking, making merry, revellings, marrying and being given in marriage etc etc. (And, BTW, science fiction is in large part the eschatology of this materialistic and/or neo-pagan view, including the social science version that spawned the horrendous messianic millennial myths of the last century, marxism and Fascism. today’s techno-fictions are often much the same, projecting a wonderful future in the stars without God; whose teachings and lessons and warnings are conveniently forgotten. Out of sight, out of mind. Not to mention the projection of cooked computer scenarios to trigger panics and to bring us to welcome the waiting global enviro- economo- socio- political messiahs. [Cf my Dec 17 remarks on Cecil Rhodes and his heirs, here, in the Deception thread!)
11 --> Only a small remnant was saved then [only 8 out of millions! so stubborn were men's hearts and so closed were their minds], and relatively speaking the same may yet happen. That is, we must beware!
12 –> So also, we can see that THE APOSTLE PETER, ON THE EVE OF HIS MARTYRDOM, PROPHESIED THE PRECISE CLUSTER OF ISSUES THAT HAS BEEN AT THE FOCUS OF DEBATE HERE AT BU IN RECENT WEEKS.
Merest coincidence?
I doubt it!
So, let us think very carefully on these things. (And Prof GP’s exposition of 2 Peter 3 is a good place to begin.)
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Dictionary | December 29, 2009 at 1:57 AM |
PS: Remember the awful significance of shutting one’s eyes to the truth one knows or should know — as the prophesied mockers of 2 Pet 3 do — as discussed also in the Deception thread, Dec 15, here. Resemblance to some of what has been going on at BU for months is NOT coincidental. So, mockers, take heed; and, repent before it is too late! Eternally, too late . .
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And:
"Onlookers, let me simply again cite on the historicity of Jesus from external corroborative record, through Paul Barnett’s summary:
On the basis of . . . non-Christian sources [i.e. Tacitus (Annals, on the fire in Rome, AD 64; written ~ AD 115), Rabbi Eliezer (~ 90's AD; cited J. Klausner, Jesus of Nazareth (London: Collier-Macmillan, 1929), p. 34), Pliny (Letters to Trajan from Bithynia, ~ AD 112), Josephus (Antiquities, ~ 90's)] it is possible to draw the following conclusions:
1. Jesus Christ was executed (by crucifixion?) in Judaea during the period where Tiberius was Emperor (AD 14 – 37) and Pontius Pilate was Governor (AD 26 – 36). [Tacitus]
2. The movement spread from Judaea to Rome. [Tacitus]
3. Jesus claimed to be God and that he would depart and return. [Eliezer]
4. His followers worshipped him as (a) god. [Pliny]
5. He was called “the Christ.” [Josephus]
6. His followers were called “Christians.” [Tacitus, Pliny]
7. They were numerous in Bithynia and Rome [Tacitus, Pliny]
8. It was a world-wide movement. [Eliezer]
9. His brother was James. [Josephus]
[Is the New Testament History? (London, Hodder, 1987), pp. 30 - 31.] "
And:
"On the strength of that historical record and resulting supernatural power that is present and active all around us on the terms of the promises of the Scriptures, we know or should know that Jesus of Nazareth is Lord of life, Lord of Death, Light of the World, reason Himself, the Way, the Truth and the Life.
13 –> So, as the magisterial late John Wenham [author of the famous Gk textbook, Codrington College monitors . . .] put it in his Christ and the Bible, we have every right to hold the same attitude to the Scriptures (especially the Tanakh, i.e. Old Testament — including the Septuagint translation that the apostles so freely used!) and the testimony of Jesus’ apostles.
14 –> To wit:
Jn 10:35b: “the scripture cannot be broken”
Mt 22:22:29 Jesus32 answered them, “You are deceived,33 because you don’t know the scriptures or the power of God . . . 22:31 Now as for the resurrection of the dead, have you not read what was spoken to you by God,35 22:32 ‘I am the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob’?36 He is not the God of the dead but of the living!”37 [i.e. he subtly but powerfully exegetes a text in the OT, in Exodus 3:6 . . . authenticating the record of Moshe!] 22:33 When the crowds heard this, they were amazed at his teaching.
Lk 12:12:11 . . . when they bring you [esp. the apostles, but more broadly those who are his] before the synagogues,26 the27 rulers, and the authorities, do not worry about how you should make your defense28 or what you should say, 12:12 for the Holy Spirit will teach you at that moment29 what you must say.”30
Jn 14: 14:16 Then36 I will ask the Father, and he will give you another Advocate37 to be with you forever – 14:17 the Spirit of truth, whom the world cannot accept,38 because it does not see him or know him. But you know him, because he resides39 with you and will be40 in you . . . . 14:25 “I have spoken these things while staying58 with you. 14:26 But the Advocate,59 the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, will teach you60 everything,61 and will cause you to remember everything62 I said to you."
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And:
"17 –> For, God is gracious and has given us many points of evidence whereby we may see just how credible and authentic — thus trustworthy and authoritative (even as as a top class dictionary is trustworthy and authoritative) — is the witness of the Scriptures, NT and OT."
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Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword. - Jesus in Matthew 10:34
But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me. -Jesus in Luke 19:27
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