paragwinn
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| Quote (Reciprocating Bill @ June 21 2011,15:13) | UD continues to press a two-front campaign:
StephenB:
| Quote | —Bilbo: “God created the process. Yes, He intended that outcome. Does that mean that the process is determined and not random?
It means homo-sapiens was predetermined. If God intends that specific outcome and arranges a process to produce that outcome and nothing else, then the process cannot be totally random. A totally random process can produce any number of outcomes, and not just the one outcome that God intended and caused. That is what the Christian Darwinists mean when they say that we were an accident of history and that the process could have produced a “big-brained dinosaur” On the contrary, if God used an evolutionary process, it was designed to produce homo-sapiens and nothing else. A totally random process(a purposeless process or one with no informational guideline) could have produced something else, in which case God would not achieve the result He intended. |
Kairosflatus:
| Quote | | As I pointed out the key problem is that the claim that design thought is trying to improperly inject “the supernatural” into science is false. |
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Joseph: | Quote | Say we are observing some phenomena- X. We can study X as X is occurring right in front of many scientists.
Afetr many years of investigtion scientists conclude that with X energy is increasing and physical laws are being violated. And seeing that X is ongoing they have been able to trace back to the source. The source is God. |
Keep movin', folks, there's no religion here...
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All women build up a resistance [to male condescension]. Apparently, ID did not predict that. -Kristine 4-19-11
F/Ns to F/Ns to F/Ns etc. The whole thing is F/N ridiculous -Seversky on KF footnote fetish 8-20-11
Sigh. Really Bill? - Barry Arrington
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