Richardthughes
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| Quote (paragwinn @ Mar. 19 2011,02:29) | Crossposted at UD:
| Quote | So the essence of Intelligent Design theory is something like:
a)vjtorley – More Catholic than the Pope? > “Intelligent Design theory claims that life, and indeed the cosmos, can only be explained as the work of an intelligent agent”, “Is an unnamed Designer closer to God than inanimate matter? Of course.”
b)William Dembski – The Conway Morris Disclaimer > “Speaking for myself, I’ve been saying this till the cows come home that (1) design can be implemented through an evolutionary process (albeit a non-Darwinian one) and (2) design does not require supernatural intervention.”
c)David Klinghoffer – The Universe Is Haunted: Reflections on the “Nature of Nature” [Evolution News and Views] > “You could put it this way: The universe is haunted.
Haunted not by ghosts but by a source of ancient, unseen, immaterial agency. Whether agents or one Agent, you simply can’t tell from the scientific evidence”, “Whatever its nature, such an intelligent force must have set in motion the 13.75-billion-year history of the cosmos and guided the unfolding of life from its origin 3.7 billion years ago.”
d)Barry Arrington – We Will if You Will > “ID theory posits that some observations are best explained as the result of the acts of an intelligent agent. The theory does not posit any particular agent and the agent need not be a deity. It could, for example, be the aliens Dawkins speculated about in his interview with Ben Stein.”, “You ask if we can declare ID to be religious because some people take ID and run with its implications in theological directions. Well, a lot of people take NDE and run with its implications in theological directions. (Atheism is nothing if not a “religous” position)
Tell you what, I am happy to call ID religious if you will also call NDE religous to the same extent.”
Have I missed anything?
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Barry claims:
| Quote | It could, for example, be the aliens Dawkins speculated about in his interview with Ben Stein.
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This is simply not true, for ID
ID claims there's not enough probabilistic resources in a universe of this size and age to create complex life. If this is true, then it is MORE true in the past that had less resources.
Evolution would conceptually have no issue with life evolving in other places.
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