Ptaylor
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Clive is really on a roll. Over on the Ray Comfort thread he's still at it, not quite admitting to being a young earth creationist, but defending YEC-ism never the less. The stupid in full:
| Quote | jurrasicmac,
| Quote | | Dawkins is right not to waste time debating Comfort or any other YEC; It would be like a professor of Roman history ‘debating’ someone who thinks Rome didn’t even exist, or an Apollo astronaut ‘debating’ someone who believes the moon landing was a hoax. It would only serve to give undue credibility to an absurd position. |
Firstly, it is not “like” anything you’ve mentioned. Secondly, Dawkins does debate what YECs say, why not debate it to their face? Thirdly, this is a weak position to maintain, one that says that they are not worth debating in person, yet he debates what they stand for, but only in their absence. If it is not “worth” debating, then be consistent. Fourthly, assuming that YECs are not worth debating begs the question, if you dismiss them to begin with, then nothing they say will be valuable as truth of the natural world. But this very debate is about truth of the natural world. Fifthly, if the atmosphere of YEC is so bad as you maintain, what does Dawkins have to lose? This argument about undue “publicity” of YECs is a red herring, because publicity comes from the public, and the majority of Americans side with Ray Comfort, not Richard Dawkins, thus the argument could be made that Ray Comfort is giving Richard Dawkins undue publicity.
| Quote | | You seem to be so certain of the outcome; why bother having the debates in the first place then? |
You should be asking yourself this question.
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We no longer say: “Another day; another bad day for Darwinism.” We now say: “Another day since the time Darwinism was disproved.”
-PaV, Uncommon Descent, 19 June 2016
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