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Zachriel



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(Permalink) Posted: Aug. 04 2010,07:10   

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kairosfocus: Reflect on why you cannot keep on substituting letters in a message ...

Actually, you can. A process of random mutation and recombination will generate quite long messages given selection for valid words and phrases. This is true even though the individual phrases are but "metaphorical islands of coordinated function in the space of possible configuration."

Still pushing the old mutagenator, huh?

Since Mutagenator, IDers have been largely staying away from word evolution analogies. Dembski tried to slip one by with Active Information in Evolutionary Search The Information Cost of No Free Lunch.

 
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Dembski: Such assumptions, however, are useless when searching to find a sequence of, say, 7 letters from a 26-letter alphabet to form a word that will pass successfully through a spell checker… With no metric to determine nearness, the search landscape for such searches is binary—either success or failure. There are no sloped hills to climb.

Even without "sloped hills to climb" and binary sucess or failure, evolutionary algorithms are quite adept at navigating highly-structured word-space. In any case, that particular paper seems to have been withdrawn.

Zachriel carefully dusts the ancient Mutagenator and gently puts it back on the shelf.

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