carlsonjok
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SCheeseman is apparently unfamiliar with the body of work of one Dr2. William Dembski.
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Seversky:
If you will not accept the theory of evolution unless it can provide evidence at the “pathetic level of detail” that Intelligent Design eschews then I assume that you demand a similar standard of evidence from ID.
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No, he meant eschews. I refer you to a comment by William Dembski:
| Quote | William A. Dembski
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posted 18. September 2002 09:01
Rafe,
I wrote, "Please show me in Michael Behe's writings or my own where we deny that IC systems can be made up of subsystems that can be functional in their own right." Both Behe and I have always defined IC with reference to the basic function of the system in question (if we've not said it explicitly -- and I have in NFL -- then a charitable reading would have granted that -- neither Behe nor I are that stupid). We therefore left open the possibility of subsystems having function in their own right. You and Yersinia charge us with a denial. The quotes you give indicate no such thing.
As for your example, I'm not going to take the bait. You're asking me to play a game: "Provide as much detail in terms of possible causal mechanisms for your ID position as I do for my Darwinian position." ID is not a mechanistic theory, and it's not ID's task to match your pathetic level of detail in telling mechanistic stories. If ID is correct and an intelligence is responsible and indispensable for certain structures, then it makes no sense to try to ape your method of connecting the dots. True, there may be dots to be connected. But there may also be fundamental discontinuities, and with IC systems that is what ID is discovering. |
Added in edit: Brainstorms doesn't have any obvious permalinks to specific comments, so you'll need to scroll a bit to see WmAD in action.
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It's natural to be curious about our world, but the scientific method is just one theory about how to best understand it. We live in a democracy, which means we should treat every theory equally. - Steven Colbert, I Am America (and So Can You!)
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