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Jerry bashing by WMAD himself: | Quote | 8
William Dembski
01/04/2010
10:23 pm
Jerry, We have some history in which you find fault with my presentations, and in which you cite your Duke and Stanford degrees and experience in business communications as qualifications for offering up your criticisms.
I’m sure I can improve on organization and delivery, but as for content, your so-called improvements leave, in my view, much to be desired. (1) Logically, miracles may be separate from design, but as a practical matter the connection between the two remains of great interest — especially to the listenership of UNBELIEVABLE. (2) Most biology, you say, is understandable from basic principles of micro-biology but not macro-biology. What does this mean? What micro-biology principles make understandable the origin of the the protein synthesis apparatus in the cell? (3) As I point out in the debate, the arrangement of stones can signify design even if the stones themselves can’t be said to be designed. The same point can be made for chemistry — basic chemistry may be undesigned (I don’t believe this) but chemical arrangements might be. Thus there are nuances to the design question in chemistry and physics that I was not willing to slide over in my discussion with Wolpert.
As I told Wolpert in the debate, the issue is not what we would prefer but what is true and how we can know it. To you I would say, the issue is not whether I get my talking points just right so that they fly at one of your business presentations, but to get to the truth of the matter about design. If this means admitting subtleties that make my debating points less forceful, then so be it. Your approach, by contrast, from what I can make of it, strikes me as hamfisted. |
Seemingly Dr. Dembski was wise enough to close comments directly afterwards.
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"[...] the type of information we find in living systems is beyond the creative means of purely material processes [...] Who or what is such an ultimate source of information? [...] from a theistic perspective, such an information source would presumably have to be God."
- William Dembski -
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