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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 05 2009,18:27   

Quote (Henry J @ Nov. 05 2009,17:18)
Hypothetically, what if octopuses had built a civilization on the sea floor but never acquired the hobby of looking at the night sky? (After all, they'd need instruments for observations that we can make by eyeball.) What would that do to the observability/habitability correlation?

To me that sounds like something that could happen on an Earth-like planet, even if it didn't on this one.

Henry

It wouldn't negate their argument. Because the earth would still be a good platform for observation--even if the race of octopuses never took advantage of it.

The argument is not anthropomorphic at all. It is not that the planet is designed for people to do science--that's Hugh Ross's argument--and that is an ID argument--but their argument is quite different—in opposition, really. Their argument is that the habitability brings the observability along for the ride--no design required--making no comment as to whether the planet will actually support life that takes advantage of the observability.

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