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clamboy Posts: 299 Joined: May 2006 (Permalink) Posted: April 01 2007,12:38    What are your predictiations as to how the DI, Michael Egnor ("That's DOCTOR to you, Darwinianist!"), and all the other ID whiners will react to one of the greatest April Fool's Day pranks ever? Will they: - ignore it? - acknowledge it with a "oh, ha ha, but Darwinism still can't explain blah blah blah" - threaten legal action against PT for use of copyrighted images/appearance/whatever? - whine? This is how I know I'm on the right side: we have the best jokes!

"Rev Dr" Lenny Flank Posts: 2560 Joined: Feb. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: April 01 2007,12:57    Remember the famous "tuba-playing Neandertals"?  (snicker)  (giggle) --For those who weren't around then --  back about ten years ago, Discover Magazine ran a tongue-in-cheek April Fools story about some Neandertals who had been discovered with "musical instruments", including a xylophone made from bones and a tuba made from a  mammoth tusk.  IIRC, there was also a report of a "cave painting" that depicted the Neandertals playing their "musical instruments". Within months, the ICR-ites were printing articles and books trumpeting this (pardon the pun) as proving that Neandertals were just modern humans and not evolutionary relatives. The fundies are not only incredibly stupid and gullible, but they are utterly and completely without any shred of humor whatsoever. -------------- Editor, Red and Black Publishers www.RedandBlackPublishers.com

Science Ninja Posts: 2 Joined: June 2006 (Permalink) Posted: April 01 2007,13:41    This one was good but RealClimate's Sheep-Albedo Feedback post made me laugh more.  :p Quote The recognition of the role of sheep albedo opens up some fascinating new possibilities for climate change mechanisms. There is in fact an important destabilizing feedback in the system: as climate gets warmer, there is less demand for wool sweaters and wooly underwear. Hence the sheep population tends to drop, leading to even more warming. In an extreme form, this can lead to a "runaway sheep-albedo feedback," which is believed to have led to the present torrid climate of Venus. Be sure to read the citations too!

stevestory Posts: 13407 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: April 01 2007,14:11    It's disturbing how many people at Panda's Thumb and related sites are falling for this.

Kristine Posts: 3061 Joined: Sep. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: April 01 2007,14:21    I can't keep up with everything. So...Dr. Egnor is real, he really said what he said, and the PT crew made a phony DI website to make what he said appear as more "street theatre" including a bet of alcohol by Dembski to Egnor, who "won," but that's the joke. Right? So Dr. Egnor not being an invention of PT is the real joke, right? Darn it. -------------- Which came first: the shimmy, or the hip? AtBC Poet Laureate "I happen to think that this prerequisite criterion of empirical evidence is itself not empirical." - Clive "Damn you. This means a trip to the library. Again." -- fnxtr

Reed A. Cartwright Posts: 21 Joined: April 2006 (Permalink) Posted: April 01 2007,14:31    Many of the people at Scienceblogs were in on it.  I'm not sure yet if there is anyone who has blogged the "confession" as real and who wasn't in on it.

stevestory Posts: 13407 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: April 01 2007,14:53    I know the PT and Scienceblog bloggers were in on it. I was referring to all the commenters at PT and Pharyngula and such who are saying things like "Now Egnor's trying to save face by claiming this was a joke? No way!"

Chris Hyland Posts: 705 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: April 01 2007,15:11    post deleted due to the fact that  I just got it.

Reed A. Cartwright Posts: 21 Joined: April 2006 (Permalink) Posted: April 01 2007,18:04    Yeah, stevestory, it worked better (or maybe worse) than we hoped.

stevestory Posts: 13407 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: April 01 2007,18:13    Good job by you guys.

snoeman Posts: 109 Joined: April 2006 (Permalink) Posted: April 01 2007,18:13    Quote (clamboy @ April 01 2007,12:38) What are your predictiations as to how the DI, Michael Egnor ("That's DOCTOR to you, Darwinianist!"), and all the other ID whiners will react to one of the greatest April Fool's Day pranks ever? Will they: - ignore it? - acknowledge it with a "oh, ha ha, but Darwinism still can't explain blah blah blah" - threaten legal action against PT for use of copyrighted images/appearance/whatever? - whine? This is how I know I'm on the right side: we have the best jokes! My guess is that they will most likely ignore it.  If they can't stand not responding, my next choice would be "whine." Should they opt to go the whining route, I can only hope that it takes the form of Luskin having a group whinge with Egnor via podcast.  There's something about the idea of having that fawning dolt interview that bloviating ignoramus in response that could provide as much humor value as the original prank on PT.

phonon Posts: 396 Joined: Nov. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: April 01 2007,19:31    Quote (stevestory @ April 01 2007,14:11) It's disturbing how many people at Panda's Thumb and related sites are falling for this. I think we can blame the fact that you really can't discern between ID/creationist arguments and a parody of them. I too was suckered at first, until I noticed "Discover Institute" and the little eyepatch on the da Vinci graphic. Then I thought the whole thing was damned clever. -------------- With most men, unbelief in one thing springs from blind belief in another. - Georg Christoph Lichtenberg To do just the opposite is also a form of imitation. - Georg Christoph Lichtenberg

Kristine Posts: 3061 Joined: Sep. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: April 01 2007,21:32    BTW you need to add an eyepatch to your avatar now, Phonon. We should all add one! (It could be like an armband to protest the silence at ID/UD/DI about this fabulous prank.)   -------------- Which came first: the shimmy, or the hip? AtBC Poet Laureate "I happen to think that this prerequisite criterion of empirical evidence is itself not empirical." - Clive "Damn you. This means a trip to the library. Again." -- fnxtr

Dr.GH Posts: 2333 Joined: May 2002 (Permalink) Posted: April 01 2007,21:44    I was totally taken in.  I reconed that the DI was trying to bail out the stupidity of their YEC supporters. PZ's apparent outrage was very convincing.  Remind me to never be too trusting again. Edited by Dr.GH on April 01 2007,21:46 -------------- "Science is the horse that pulls the cart of philosophy." L. Susskind, 2004 "SMOLIN VS. SUSSKIND: THE ANTHROPIC PRINCIPLE"

Kristine Posts: 3061 Joined: Sep. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: April 01 2007,22:00    Even Denyse is getting into the protest! Courtesy of Lou - from whom I've not heard in a while, but is back. -------------- Which came first: the shimmy, or the hip? AtBC Poet Laureate "I happen to think that this prerequisite criterion of empirical evidence is itself not empirical." - Clive "Damn you. This means a trip to the library. Again." -- fnxtr

k.e Posts: 1948 Joined: Mar. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: April 01 2007,22:40    WHO SAYS WE DON'T HAVE A SENSE OF HUMOR? BILL AND I FARTED OURSELVES STUPID WHEN WE READ THAT. BESIDES ....WE HAVE ME AND I CRACK ME UP ALL THE TIME- dt -------------- The conservative has but little to fear from the man whose reason is the servant of his passions, but let him beware of him in whom reason has become the greatest and most terrible of the passions.These are the wreckers of outworn empires and civilisations, doubters, disintegrators, deicides.Haldane

clamboy Posts: 299 Joined: May 2006 (Permalink) Posted: April 06 2007,00:08    Dagnabbit! Consarnit! And hang ten! Egnor et. al. have decided to ignore the glorious wonder that was the PT April Fools' joke (so far as I can tell). Poop, I really wanted *something*. What a bunch of wimpy dorknuts. Wimpy, wimpy, wimpy. GOT THAT, EGNOR??? YOU ARE A WIMPY, WIMPY, WIMPY WIMP.

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